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PostSubject: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 10:14 pm

So I may just patch these floors in this other D1 for now if I can borrower a decent welder and get some material for cheap. Then I should be able to make it to the snow and sand event.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 10:36 pm

Jake wrote:
So I may just patch these floors in this other D1 for now if I can borrower a decent welder and get some material for cheap. Then I should be able to make it to the snow and sand event.

sounds like a good idea. swamp another engine lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 10:40 pm

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Jake wrote:
So I may just patch these floors in this other D1 for now if I can borrower a decent welder and get some material for cheap. Then I should be able to make it to the snow and sand event.

sounds like a good idea. swamp another engine lol.

I do what I can! Just don't wanna miss out on the fun. I need a blower motor I think. I dont have heat or ac in that truck but cdl works!
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 10:47 pm

Buy some psp and just lay it in as a floor. The holes will just let the water drain out and no need to weld
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:00 pm

Unless you plan on keeping the new truck and restoring it/keeping it just get some sheet metal,drill and bits,pop rivets,and heavy duty caulk.It will do the job cheap and effectively.Or you could just get a 4.6 for betsy...
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:04 pm

devildog01 wrote:
Unless you plan on keeping the new truck and restoring it/keeping it just get some sheet metal,drill and bits,pop rivets,and heavy duty caulk.It will do the job cheap and effectively.Or you could just get a 4.6 for betsy...

Yea may do that to fix it all for now just to get it on the road. Have some other small stuff to fix if I decide to keep it.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:19 pm

You should also pick up some ridalin.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:21 pm

devildog01 wrote:
You should also pick up some ridalin.

i have a.d.d., i used to take shit for it, now I just work through it
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:23 pm

jveen wrote:
here you go
http://www.harborfreight.com/welding/mig-flux-welders/90-amp-flux-wire-welder-98871.html

wont work on sheet metal, will burn right thru...
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:25 pm

I seen welder thought I post. I am clueless with that shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:32 pm

jveen wrote:
I seen welder thought I post. I am clueless with that shit.

yea thanks for trying to help but I have looked at them. Cant adjust it like the top dollar units
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:38 pm

You can mig sheet metal depending on the thickness but its not easy.The real problem is that when you mig the metal you weld has to be very clean ie rust free.IMO the pop rivet caulk fix is cheap,easy and can be taken out later and done properly later.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 12, 2011 11:56 pm

devildog01 wrote:
You can mig sheet metal depending on the thickness but its not easy.The real problem is that when you mig the metal you weld has to be very clean ie rust free.IMO the pop rivet caulk fix is cheap,easy and can be taken out later and done properly later.

yea I am with you on that.. I may just do that but the sills need attention too..
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 13, 2011 4:34 am

You can weld sheet metal with a larger mig all you needto do is a couple hundred little spot welds. If you have something copper to put on the underside while welding that help too.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 13, 2011 1:57 pm

You really need a spot welder. You can go the HF route through this, plus then have an arc welder.

http://www.harborfreight.com/80-amp-inverter-arc-welder-91110.html

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http://www.harborfreight.com/spot-weld-gun-98759.html
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 16, 2011 11:41 pm

Think if I get the HF 90 amp flux and use thicker replacement steel I can get the job done?
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17, 2011 8:37 am

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Think if I get the HF 90 amp flux and use thicker replacement steel I can get the job done?


Yup. Just just do little stitch welds about 5" apart and let cool then go in between those welds with tacks let cool and keep repeating till you either have a full weld or its real sturdy then seal it up with brushable seam sealer then paint. Flux core wire sucks major ass get a welder that uses gas and use .020 wire and youll be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17, 2011 8:46 am

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Think if I get the HF 90 amp flux and use thicker replacement steel I can get the job done?


Yup. Just just do little stitch welds about 5" apart and let cool then go in between those welds with tacks let cool and keep repeating till you either have a full weld or its real sturdy then seal it up with brushable seam sealer then paint. Flux core wire sucks major ass get a welder that uses gas and use .020 wire and youll be fine.

Yea I read with the harbor freight welder it can be done just takes practice small wire and the splatter suck which i dont care about anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17, 2011 8:56 am

A damn good welder told me once "anybody can weld 1/4" metal but no one can weld sheetmetal". Youll be fine as long as you let the metsl cool and just do small 1/4"-1/2" stitch welds. And like Brett said make sure everything is good and clean, itll be a stronger weld and the cleaner it is itll cut down on some spatter. Out of all the body shops I ever been in I have yet to see some one have a nice weld on sheetmetal but as long as you have a grinder to clean it up afterword youll be fine. After all its just a floorboard its not like its an exterior panel on a show car.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17, 2011 9:27 am

Yea as long as it holds strong and would last for years if I resold the truck. Gonna have to clean up any weld I make anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17, 2011 6:02 pm

Just fiberglass it.
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 17, 2011 6:14 pm

For the last fucking time, SHEETMETAL AND POPRIVETS!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 3:12 am

devildog01 wrote:
For the last fucking time, SHEETMETAL AND POPRIVETS!!!!!!


NO! NO! NO! you dumbass! This is a rare 1995 Land Rover DISCOVERY. You can't just fix it up half-ass!
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PostSubject: Re: Need a welder   Need a welder I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 18, 2011 4:10 am

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devildog01 wrote:
For the last fucking time, SHEETMETAL AND POPRIVETS!!!!!!


NO! NO! NO! you dumbass! This is a rare 1995 Land Rover DISCOVERY. You can't just fix it up half-ass!

If im going take the time to do it why not just do it right the first time? I know it's just a disco and I could rivet some parts but the rocker panels are rusted too so I have nothing to but it up against.. In going to access the situation some more with a grinder in hand
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