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PostSubject: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 1:54 pm

So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

I am thinking simple something simple like the one on the blue jeep in this link http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/Tire-Carrier-Swingout-Heavy-Duty-Hinge-Kit.html

with a vertical latch or maybe a latch attached to a piece where the original end caps go

http://www.mcmaster.com/#pull-action-toggle-clamps/=h9eo5n

A lot of companies are also hinging it on the door so it basically makes it one unit and swings together but most of the weight is bared by the hinge on the end. This is another option and I would be able to do this without having a latch.

Any ideas or suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 4:39 pm

Jake wrote:
So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

I am thinking simple something simple like the one on the blue jeep in this link http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/Tire-Carrier-Swingout-Heavy-Duty-Hinge-Kit.html

with a vertical latch or maybe a latch attached to a piece where the original end caps go

http://www.mcmaster.com/#pull-action-toggle-clamps/=h9eo5n

A lot of companies are also hinging it on the door so it basically makes it one unit and swings together but most of the weight is bared by the hinge on the end. This is another option and I would be able to do this without having a latch.

Any ideas or suggestions?

My Dad has a LR swing away tire carrier for is Serries II, I can take some photos so you could at least have a design to work off?
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 6:02 pm

Thebloody323 wrote:
Jake wrote:
So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

I am thinking simple something simple like the one on the blue jeep in this link http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/Tire-Carrier-Swingout-Heavy-Duty-Hinge-Kit.html

with a vertical latch or maybe a latch attached to a piece where the original end caps go

http://www.mcmaster.com/#pull-action-toggle-clamps/=h9eo5n

A lot of companies are also hinging it on the door so it basically makes it one unit and swings together but most of the weight is bared by the hinge on the end. This is another option and I would be able to do this without having a latch.

Any ideas or suggestions?

My Dad has a LR swing away tire carrier for is Serries II, I can take some photos so you could at least have a design to work off?

Sure is it bumper mounted or tub mounted?
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 9:06 pm

It's bumper mounted.
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 10:56 pm

Jake wrote:
So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

Who is Denny and whatfer bumpers does he have?
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 10:59 pm

DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

Who is Denny and whatfer bumpers does he have?


http://www.hlcfab.com/products.php
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 11:08 pm

Jake wrote:
DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

Who is Denny and whatfer bumpers does he have?


http://www.hlcfab.com/products.php

wtf? Why don't you get a bumper like Eddy for a few hundred and WELD the rest of the shit?

$750 for a rear bumper is nuts. Then $250 MORE for armor?
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 11:11 pm

DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

Who is Denny and whatfer bumpers does he have?


http://www.hlcfab.com/products.php

wtf? Why don't you get a bumper like Eddy for a few hundred and WELD the rest of the shit?

$750 for a rear bumper is nuts. Then $250 MORE for armor?

You get what you pay for... You know that. don't need the armor I already have that. I need a tire carrier.
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 11:16 pm

Jake wrote:
DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

Who is Denny and whatfer bumpers does he have?


http://www.hlcfab.com/products.php

wtf? Why don't you get a bumper like Eddy for a few hundred and WELD the rest of the shit?

$750 for a rear bumper is nuts. Then $250 MORE for armor?

You get what you pay for... You know that. don't need the armor I already have that. I need a tire carrier.

Yeah, I know but I thought Ed's rear bumper was sufficient. I want to make my own bumper - a couple laser cut pieces of steel and some welding. Wish I had the time...

Why do you NEED a tire carrier? To save the rear hinges?
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 11:23 pm

DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
DiscoSux wrote:
Jake wrote:
So I am picking up a bumper off Denny and will probably end up fabing a spare tire carrier for it myself unless he cuts me a sweet deal. His is SUPER nice but also pretty pricey.

Who is Denny and whatfer bumpers does he have?


http://www.hlcfab.com/products.php

wtf? Why don't you get a bumper like Eddy for a few hundred and WELD the rest of the shit?

$750 for a rear bumper is nuts. Then $250 MORE for armor?

You get what you pay for... You know that. don't need the armor I already have that. I need a tire carrier.


Yes I want to keep my spare out back. Plus this bumper is BEEFY its made from 1/4" and the mounts are 1/2". Offers quarter panel protection. Plus I like the looks of it more than any of the others out there.
Yeah, I know but I thought Ed's rear bumper was sufficient. I want to make my own bumper - a couple laser cut pieces of steel and some welding. Wish I had the time...

Why do you NEED a tire carrier? To save the rear hinges?
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 11:44 pm

Sorry trying to type from my phone. And since I sold m rack, lights, ladder etc for $900 Ill call it a wash and have something I actually need and will use.
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 25, 2012 11:46 pm

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Sorry trying to type from my phone. And since I sold m rack, lights, ladder etc for $900 Ill call it a wash and have something I actually need and will use.

Good News! I agree with your plan, cool...
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 10:57 am

I would use a double shear hinge.

http://www.comp4x4.com/Tire-Carrier-Hinge-Kit-with-Double-Shear-Bracket-STANDARD.html

Decide what hinge your planning on using, and have Denny weld the sleeve into the bumper when he makes it. Or, ask him what hinges he recommends, and have him weld whatever sleeve he typically uses into the bumper.

Ad I would go with a double locking, ubolt latch hinge.

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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 11:01 am

Or if you want to make it easy, this guy makes a square tube hinge.

http://www.pivotking.com/axlepage.htm

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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 11:17 am

durt d1ver wrote:
I would use a double shear hinge.

http://www.comp4x4.com/Tire-Carrier-Hinge-Kit-with-Double-Shear-Bracket-STANDARD.html

Decide what hinge your planning on using, and have Denny weld the sleeve into the bumper when he makes it. Or, ask him what hinges he recommends, and have him weld whatever sleeve he typically uses into the bumper.

Ad I would go with a double locking, ubolt latch hinge.

Good call on having him weld the sleeve that would make things a lot easier and probably motivate me to finish it once it gets here.


I also got an A-bar that was removed from an RTE from Dale (Rovertrader) that will be going on the front to help house some lights. I always liked how those a-bars looked and when I decided the rack was going I figured why not.
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 11:24 am

You know, you could probably make a roof rack for yourself for around $250. That is what I priced out steel tubing from mcmaster-carr.
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 11:29 am

Jake wrote:

I also got an A-bar that was removed from an RTE from Dale (Rovertrader) that will be going on the front to help house some lights.

If you want to hang some lights, you could get one of these:

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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 11:31 am

Thebloody323 wrote:
You know, you could probably make a roof rack for yourself for around $250. That is what I priced out steel tubing from mcmaster-carr.

Voyager racks build theirs out of 3/4" emt. You could build a rack for much less than 250. It's all the bending involved as to why most people don't bother doing it themselves.

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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 11:33 am

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You know, you could probably make a roof rack for yourself for around $250. That is what I priced out steel tubing from mcmaster-carr.

I dont want a roof rack Very Happy thats why I got rid of mine. I never used it, it made tons of noise and probably didnt help with gas milage. Plus having lights up there was annoying because of the glare and reflection and they were never pointing where I needed them to because the rack was always hitting branches and shit. And I think my truck looks 10x better with out it.
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 11:33 am

and Thanks Brian but I dont want a bonnet turd either
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 12:02 pm

durt d1ver wrote:

Voyager racks build theirs out of 3/4" emt. You could build a rack for much less than 250. It's all the bending involved as to why most people don't bother doing it themselves.

Lol, yeah my dad just sees that as a reason to buy a pipe bender.
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PostSubject: Re: Swing away tire carrier   Swing away tire carrier I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 26, 2012 12:13 pm

I have a piece of conduit i bent to make a light bar out of. I just havent bothered to make mounting brackets yet, and i need a mig to weld the light tabs on. Ill finish it sometime never

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